Circumcision Discussion on RV Trip

My good friend from work, Tom, and I decided to take my trailer to the beach and fly kites over the long weekend.  We both had flown stunt kites together as a hobby but had not gone out to fly for a weekend.  The trip promised to be great fun.  

We loaded up the trailer with kites and food and headed off to the coast.  We parked the trailer in the RV park, hooked up water and power and left for the beach. That afternoon we flew kites for several hours.  We then went back to the RV, got out of our sandy outer layer of clothes and then headed off the local tavern for burgers and beer.  When we got back to the trailer we were both tired and crashed into our sleeping bags.  Tom on the fold out couch and me in the bed room.

I woke up and about 7:30 and had to pee real bad.  I sleep in the nude and since we had already discussed that modesty was not an issue, I just got out of bed and walked the length of the trailer and satisfied my need.  When I stepped out of the bathroom I saw that Tom was awake and asked him if he wanted to pee before I hit the shower.  He agreed and got out of his sleeping bag.  He too was naked.  He went in and relieved himself and let me in to shower.

When I came out of the shower and headed across the trailer to the bedroom.  Tom was sitting in the chair still naked and as I passed he commented: "I see you have not been circumcised; I haven't seen one of those since my army days but never one this close."  Tom was neatly circumcised.  To tell the truth, I was somewhat jealous of his configuration.  

He asked if we could talk about our different cocks.  Mine with foreskin and his circumcised.  I said no problem.  For some reason I was quite comfortable with this discussion.  We both sat there naked and comfortably talked about our different penis configurations.  

Tom wanted to know what it was like having a foreskin and how it worked.  He said he had some guesses but really had no real idea.  I told him to imagine having two to three times as much loose skin on his penis.  And that if he were to let that additional skin to go over his glans, he would have a foreskin.  The skin over the glans would be doubled over itself.  Circumcision is just the shortening of the skin on our dicks.

I told him that I could pull the foreskin back off of my glans and almost look circumcised.  Tom asked me if I would show him how that works.  I said OK, grabbed my penis at the front of the glans and slid my foreskin back exposing the knob.  Now it almost looked like a circumcised dick except that there was a whole lot of wrinkled skin on the shaft.  He agreed that at a quick glance my dick looked circumcised but that the skin sure wasn't smooth like his.  I also explained that if I left the skin this way it would eventually return over the glans by itself and sometimes catching a hair.  And that it would hurt with the hair feeling like it was cutting my foreskin.  I suggested to him that sometime when he was extra soft, he could probably push his penis back onto his body and he could experience having some skin cover part of his glans.  I then slid the foreskin back over my glans.  Tom was amused by how easily the skin moved.  I told him it moves just as easily the skin on his dick except that I just had a lot of skin and he had very little.  He could see how there was skin touching the glans out to the tip and how the skin folded back on itself, covering the inner foreskin, to return to the shaft.

I asked him how much his skin moved when soft and when hard.  He said that he could grasp the middle of his skin and move it an inch back and forth when he was just engorged and almost not at all when fully erect.  I asked him if any skin ever covered any of the glans when he was super soft/shrunk.  Tom said that his glans was always exposed.  I told him that I thought that was what a good circumcision should do for him.  

Tom's penis was a normal 6 and a half inches long and his circumcision scar was about 1 and a half inches back from the head.  I asked him if he knew that he had two kinds of skin on his penis shaft.  He looked totally puzzled by the question.  I explained to him that the skin on the shaft and outer foreskin fold of a natural penis is the same but the inner foreskin is very different.  It is mucus membrane like the inside of our eyelids.  I further explained that the skin from his circumcision scar to his body was shaft skin and the skin between the scar and the head was inner foreskin tissue.  He should be able to feel the difference between the two kinds of skin.  The inner foreskin remnant should be much more sensitive to stimulation. He said that he had noticed that, particularly during masturbation, but hadn't known why. 

We had pretty well covered our physical differences.  Tom had also asked what it was like having a foreskin.  I suggested to him that since I started first with the physical differences but that I would like to hear from him first about what it was like having a circumcised dick.

Tom took a moment trying to gather his thoughts.  While he was getting his thoughts organized, I suggested he tell me what it was like having sex, masturbation, and every day life with a circumcised cock.  He said oral sex was great; contact with the head and the skin between the circ scar and the head could drive him nuts.  Vaginal sex could be a problem with friction until she was lubricated.  He found masturbation good dry but often he preferred some kind of lubrication.  He sure enjoyed 'washing his dick very well' in the shower.  I asked him about every day life: movement in his pants, pissing, being nude in the gym showers, etc.

He said pissing was simple, take it out, piss, shake it and put it away.  He felt normal and not self conscious in the showers at the gym.  As far as movement in his pants, he said that some times he would be very aware of his knob sliding back and forth when going up stairs and when his dick was pinched when driving his car he could just push it around to where it as more comfortable.  I asked do you just push it around from outside of your pants and it slides to the place you want it to go.  If said that's it, just move it where I want.

I asked him to tell me about when and how he learned that there were guys with foreskins and he had been circumcised.  Also how he felt about having a circumcised dick, did he ever wish he had a foreskin?  

He said he discovered that some guys had foreskins in middle school PE showers. He was eleven years old and in the sixth grade.  He had very open communication with his mother and asked her about the difference.  She explained that every boy was born with a foreskin but most parents had it removed surgically, called circumcision.  His mom and dad thought it was best for a boy.  It was easier to keep clean and helped avoid certain diseases and problems through out life.  Since he was in the circumcised majority, he had thought very little more about it.

He said he always thought he had 'normal' penis and to be honest he always thought guys with foreskins had weird dicks.  No, he had never wanted to have his foreskin back.  He would occasionally see an uncircumcised penis in school, military, and gym showers and considered himself lucky/normal to be circumcised. He was very happy to be circumcised and thought his circumcised configuration was the greatest.  He hoped that he did not offend me.  But, as he had asked me earlier, he had long been curious as to how the foreskin worked.  He concluded by saying that his circumcised dick worked very well for him.

It was now my turn to describe how I found out about the circumcision difference.  I explained to Tom that I first noticed the difference in the lavatory when I was 6 years old and in the first grade.  My school had those urinals that went all the way to the floor.  I had noticed that some of boys were standing back pissing a well-directed stream up and down the back of the urinal.  I couldn't do that because my stream just fell like a waterfall of the end of the foreskin that extended beyond the end of my glans.  Most uncircumcised little boys that age have a foreskin that puckers beyond of the glans by about a quarter of an inch. The anteater look.  The orifice was not tight like the nozzle of a circumcised penis. I would look at their penises, saw that their knobs were exposed and they got a tight stream out of the end. I told Tom that like him, I asked my mother why some boys had bare knobs and I had skin over mine.  Her answer was that those boys had the skin on the end of their penises cut off by the doctor when they were born and that the operation was called circumcision.  I asked why I was not circumcised and she said that I did not need it.  I later learned that my father was not circumcised and guessed that was also a factor.  I still wanted to direct my piss just like the circumcised boys.  With all the brilliance of a little boy, I figured out that if I retracted my foreskin all the way, I too could draw patterns with my stream.  

From that point on I tried to determine who of my fellow students were circumcised and who weren't.  I soon learned that very few of us had foreskins.  I learned all of my cousins were circumcised.  I then worried that since I was different for almost of all the boys I would be teased because I was different.  I would hide my penis as much as I could.  An example would be at the Boy Scout camp slit trenches.  When I started middle school and had to dress down and shower for PE, I decided that I would go with the flow and let the other guys see a natural dick.  It was never mentioned and I was never teased. But being in the small minority of the uncircumcised, I still worried about being different.  I told Tom, "It still continues to this day."  Tom said it really made no difference to him but he was just curious about the circumcision difference.

It was now my turn to explain about life with a foreskin.  I explained that I learned to masturbate early in life because one day I was experimenting with rolling the foreskin on and off my glans.  I found that movement enjoyable.  Soon I was sliding the foreskin back and forth as fast as I could.  I would even climax but I was way too young to ejaculate.  In my teenage years, I tried pulling my foreskin back as tight as I could and hold it back with one hand.  I then could try to see what it would be like to masturbate with a circumcised penis.  It was also quite enjoyable.  I prefer holding the foreskin back for oral sex.  The glans is always exposed and gets stimulated and so does the exposed inner foreskin. Also the grove where glans meets the shaft gets stimulated.  If I don't hold it back the foreskin, it will work forward and cover all or part of the glans reducing the surfaces getting stimulated.  For vaginal sex again the foreskin will slide back and forth reducing the surface area of the glans exposed.  It is kind of like masturbating with a vagina instead of my hand, the foreskin just rolling off and on the glans.  However, if she is not lubricating well, we can use my foreskin to eliminate friction.

To answer what every day life was like I gave the following answers.  To pee, I pull it out, skin it back, piss fully controlling my stream, shake it and then sometimes I return the skin over my glans and sometime leave it retracted to put it back in my pants. Sometimes in the summer and my concentrated urine drips onto the tip of my foreskin and dries, the foreskin gets mildly inflamed and itches. I usually try to keep the foreskin retracted during those times.  When driving and my penis is in the wrong position I have reach inside my pants and reposition my penis where I want it.  If I try reposition it from outside my pants it will roll into position inside foreskin and then roll back into its original position inside the foreskin.  I do not worry about being naked in the gym.  As is also evident right here, I'm just me but I am conscious of being different.  

Have I ever wanted to have a circumcised penis?  Yes, it was quite strong in my pre-puberty years. I wanted to be 'normal' like everybody else.  Before I went into the service, I had heard that uncircumcised guys are sometimes encouraged to get cut and sometimes outright detailed to the infirmary for circumcision.  During my induction physical and my arrival physical for basic training I wondered if I would be detailed for circumcision. Quite truthfully, I think I wished I had been detailed for circumcision.  Obviously I was not. I was never encouraged to get circumcised in the service.  In my barracks occasionally there was one other uncircumcised guy but usually I was the only one.

Now it was my turn to talk about what I thought about circumcised vs. uncircumcised dicks.  I told Tom that I preferred the look of the circumcised penis and thought his looked great. He thanked me for the compliment. And, as I had said, I often simulate a circumcised penis by holding the foreskin back tight and by frequently leaving the foreskin retracted.  I also told Tom that in the shower I really enjoyed holding my foreskin back tight and like him thoroughly washing my dick.

Tom asked me if I wanted to give up my foreskin and get circumcised.  I replied that sometimes I did and but I was not committed to get a circumcision.  I was pretty sure I would like it if I did.  Tom commented that he thought I would really like a circumcised dick if I got it done.  I told him I was concerned about going through the surgery, the expense, what the doctor would think my wanting to get circumcised.

I retracted my foreskin; put on my underwear and sent Tom into the shower with instructions not to spend too much time washing his dick as we needed to conserve water.

We spent the next two days flying our kites and in the morning observing each other's dicks.  When we got back to work nothing more said about private conversations.

For the next three months I thought a lot more about getting circumcised. I kept the foreskin retracted as much as possible and firmly and fully pulled my foreskin back whenever I peed, had sex or masturbated.  I much preferred the pseudo circumcised state and decided to make it permanent.  Finally I had it done. The surgery was almost a non-event and my insurance paid for it. I said nothing to Tom about my circumcision.

The next year Tom asked if we could go to the beach and fly kites just like last year. I agreed. I knew I had a surprise for him. We again took the trailer.  

The first morning I again went across the trailer nude to the bathroom and took my morning piss.  I came out and asked Tom if he want to piss before I took my morning shower.  Going into the bathroom he glanced at my dick and did a double take.  When he came out he exclaimed: "You did it, no more wrinkles and a permanently exposed head."  I said yes, and I'm convinced a circumcised dick truly the best.  Tom said: "Welcome to the club."  I said thanks and that I feel like a new man.  Tom asked me how long ago I did it.  I told him about 3 months after our last trip, that our discussion led me to think about what I really wanted.  And that since I really wanted circumcised penis, I should go get it done.  I thanked Tom for getting me to look at my real preferences and therefore choosing to get circumcised.  I then teased him that it was "his fault that I lost my foreskin."  He enjoyed the joke.  

I told him I decided not to tell him but let him see for himself on our next kite trip.  So here I am a circumcised guy.  We talked some about my getting circumcised as an adult and what it was like.  But we spent almost all of our time doing what we came here for flying kites and drinking beer.